Nagoya Suzuki No.6 - The Suzuki SSS guitar from Japan by the Suzuki luthiers
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki
SSS - Vintage - Japan
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Anyway... when I held it in my hands it felt somehow special. It is pretty nicely crafted and has pretty unique haptics. Also (even though the strings were more rust than anything else) I had the feeling, that one could be able to get some really unique sound from it.
While he wanted 27€ for the Nagoya Suzuki No. 6 from Japan, I gave him 15€. That was rude, wasn't it? HELL NO! Why? He was trying to sell me some really cheap "crafted" decorative ukuleles (which actually weren't crafted or even decorative) as very special and "magnificent master instruments". When I
realized, that he just wanted to make cash on any(ones) cost(s), I decided to treat him as unpersonal as I thought he might deserve it. Consider: I might have given him 30€+ gladly on other circumstances. I gladly pay for what I like.
Suzuki No.6 Guitar Label - Nagoya Suzuki
SSS - Vintage - Japan
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But first... SOME HISTORY...
As far as I know Suzuki started to craft guitars somewhat around 1900. But that is not the start of it's story.
As you can read on the web (for example on this site) Masakichi Suzuki initiated his "business" long before. He was born 1859 and got interested in violins with the age of 14. He was taking the violin of a friend as tool for reverse engineering and hand crafted his first violin after that very example. It was brescian style with slab cut front. He hired some craftmen and founded Nagoya Suzuki Violin Co. Ltd. in 1988. After a lot of year in which he did a lot of interesting stuff, like designing machines, he died in the year 1944.
His son Shinichi learned the violin from his sister, studied 8 years in Germany at Klars Klingel, married the German later founded the Suzuki Music School – which is very well known throughout Japan. About 1400 teachers are teaching children between 3 and 10 years in Japan. There are 37 more schools in the world, accomondated by about 300.000 pupils. There are also violin books out there from Suzuki. See some of it HERE on Youtube. There is a whole style of playing called after Suzuki. From this wide spreaded experiences, Nagoya Suzuki crafts very good, very affordable, very easy to play violins (and some guitars). Quote:
From educational violins to upscale products for advanced-level players, all Suzuki violins produce a better timbre, the longer you use them. The company's quest for improvement will never stop on the way toward the position of "The World's Best."After World War II the company split into Kiso Violin Company and the Suzuki Violin Company – later Nagoya Suzuki Violin Company. Both manufactured violins and guitars. Both stopped to produce guitars from 1988/89. The Nagayo Suzuki Violin Co. Ltd is the one who produced the Suzuki No.6 guitar which this post is dedicated to. My Suzuki No.6 (as most other Nagoya Suzuki guitars) are marked down by a logo of 3 crossing "S" (The picture above).
How to date a Nagoya Suzuki No. 6?
So for now we know, the Suzuki No. 6 must have been produced before 1989. In my case it was build in 1966. How to know? It was stamped on the inside. Fortunatly all Nagoya Suzuki Vintage guitars from Japan got a 6 digit stamp inside located at the top/neck. The first two numbers point out the producing year. 66xxx in my case would mean 1966. That easy. Some Nagoya Suzuki guitars miss that feature. You can find a link at the bottom of the post for more clearance on how to date them. There are also some hints on to date other Suzuki labeled guitars.Just wanna throw in, that there are also cool Kiso Suzuki guitars. There are cool instruments like the Kiso Suzuki 9507 – a sweet Gibson Hummingbird clone, that can sound pretty nice – or the Kiso Suzuki GA-100, the W150 or the 9653.
You can finde some more informations on this catalouges.
Same Modell but differently crafted?
A user (thanks to Jessica from Germany) contacted me earlier this day - wondering about her Szuzuki No. 6. She has two and wants to sell them. Because hers was looking slightly diffrently to each other, she contacted me. After a short research I could tell her that one version was from 1972 and had a different headstock and the Bindings do differ too. While all Suzuki No. 6 guitars seem to be made from the same materials, mine also has a white Binding, whilest her 1972 was blackly bindet. Also my Suzuki No.6 has a pretty simple binding around the soundhole, her one was a little more detailled. I thought it was worth to upload her comparison here. Please do not use these pictures without her permission. If you like to use them, drop me a message and I'll try to contact her and ask for permission.©Jessica from MA / Germany:
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki SSS Soundhole 1966 |
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki SSS Soundhole 1972 |
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki SSS Soundhole 1966 |
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki SSS Soundhole 1972 |
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Pictures of my Nagoya Suzuki No.6 Japan vintage guitar before and after it's (partially) Restoration.
This is what it looked like, BEFORE and AFTER the Restoration. Unfortunatly I missed out to take some pictures after I bought it. Also I'm missing some comparison pictures for the Back / Front / Side. Don't know where they went. *yuck*. But take my word, the front looked like the back and the right side like the left side.
Anyway, this is what I got for now:
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki
SSS - Vintage - Japan Back Side BEFORE RESTORATION |
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki
SSS - Vintage - Japan Front Side AFTER RESTORATION |
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki
SSS - Vintage - Japan Left Side BEFORE RESTORATION |
Suzuki No.6 Guitar - Nagoya Suzuki
Tripple SSS - Vintage - Japan Right Side AFTER RESTORATION |
There's a lot more to do. I wanna scrape down and rebuild, or just rebuild the laminate and lower the action a little more.
Nevertheless I'm pretty satisfied with my shiny new Nagoya Suzuki No. 6 treasure already. After cleaning and fixing the frets, it already started to sound very lovely. It has a really unique sound. Like a mix betweet a steel stringed koa ukulele and a rusty bucket. Don't know how to explain it, never had anything sounding so "funny" and "interesting" at once. One can create really unique tones with it. Also it's very lightwighted. Even though (or because of?) the neck i pretty big, you can play it easily. I know it might be a cheap one that may not be worth anything to anyone - except me – but it fills my little GAS-infected heart with joy.
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Even though it was partially very sophisticated and I had to buy me tools and stuff, I'm glad I saved it from a life of shame. This was actually one of my first works to restore. Started out of and with nothing. No tools, no knowledge – just google. I actually didn't read a lot tutorials. I much more read about the materials, physics and tools, instead of watching youtube howto's. Well did I talk to some guitar makers and luthiers. Unfortunatly they were pretty "modern schooled" (some of them didn't even know "Knochenleim" or "Bimsmehl" – what a shame).
I worked carefully, reasonable and precisely. And I'm good for now. I think the best rule to keep is: BE PATIENT! I'd like to encourage all readers out there, to save some of this poor guitars and give them a new shiny life.
As far as I can say: As older the wood, as prettier the sound. Of course you will have to fix a lot of issues first but in the end, the age seems to matter a lot. I (and others agree) think my Aria 9400 sounds way better then any original Martin D-28 that has been produced since 2001. Wrong topic...
Some more information about the Nagoya Suzuki No. 6 SSS Japan Vintage guitar is comming soon. I'm still sorting out "BIAS" and "Deep Knowledge". :)
Also I received some E-Mails about the old blog and what happened. Long story short: i was horrible, out of date and ugly. So I decided to resetup it. the old informations will be added step by step in a new layout. Sorry for the inconvinence.
Informations about Nagoya Suzuki No. 6 Serial Numbers (and other Japan / Kiso Suzuki guitars)
Funny typo:
ReplyDelete"Long story short: i was horrible, out of date and ugly."
Thanks for the useful info.
Funny typo #2:
ReplyDelete"There are 37 more schools in the world, inhibiting about 300.000 pupils."
No offence intended; I hope you can laugh with me.
The article here really is very useful.
I inherited a Suzuki no 6 and if you are right about the serial number it was made in 1941. The numerous are 41.9.20?
ReplyDeleteHe's got it wrong. Only the first number is the year.
DeleteIf it is a yellow and white square label, it's a 1974 guitar.
If it is oval it is a 1984.
So many people make this mistake!
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DeleteHello! I really hope this isn’t a dead end and someone can reply and help me date and price this guitar I found in a storage unit. It is a Suzuki, made in Japan, but the label is ripped in half and it looks a lot like the one pictured in this article… please reach out if you can help 🙏🙏
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ReplyDeleteIt seems so. But I'm actually not sure wether the No.6 was build in 41 already. I have been contacted recently by another user who also has a No. 6 which seems to differ from the versions I have. I'll ask for some photos and update the post soon.
Regards
Were they building during the war? Regardless, I don't think they were produced before the late 50s.
DeleteI've got a W300 SSS. Looks like it was built in 1977. That's right about when I bought it too. Never want to part with it. It sounds awesome.
ReplyDeleteI have a allsolid suzuki#6
ReplyDeleteUnlike the image that you put into it. I am not interested
It is a set of knobs with brass
ReplyDeleteHi, wandering if this guitar has a solid top, or laminated?
ReplyDeleteSimon.
It all solid
DeleteI can buy one as we speak; it has a black binding instead of a cream one like yours. I'd love to send you some pics and hear some advice from you!
ReplyDeleteHi :) I have an old Suzuki No6 , the no inside at the neckend is: 431213. This guitar look like your no6 :) Not like the guitar made in 1977. Are my guitar made in 1943 ?
ReplyDeleteExcited to find this blog I bought a # 6 yesterday. It looks pretty good nic. Some corrosion on the frets but I'll clean that up. It's got the stamp starts with 71 same aesthetics as the German example above. Even has the original vinyl bag!
ReplyDeletei have an old suzuki guitar but i dont know if my guitar is a vintage guitar or how..i got from my father..his buy that guitar after world war 2 in Sabah(north borneo)..very pretty sound and the guitar woods is not like the guitar today...
ReplyDeleteMAN! great info! Thanks! I have 4 guitars from Nagoya Suzuki company, with that label, I started learning classical guitar with one of them, that belonged to my father! After almost destroying her, I went on a rage search for them here in PT, and found a couple of them, bought them all. Exactly to do that, restore. they're beautiful sounding and confortable, great learning instruments! Thanks for this, Will try to pot some pictures of them soon!
ReplyDeleteHello, i would very much like t know if you got any info onthe woods of ths guitar? is the top solid or laminate, also the back, solid or laminate? Thanks
ReplyDeleteIt seems there is two systems of dating on these models the ones that start with 4 is the Showa system that needs to be cross referenced for the year incidentally my Num 6 is 1970 and is the same as the 1972 model here i wonder when the model style changed
ReplyDeleteNagoya Suzuki used 2 systems of serial numbers , the most common is the 1970-1980 6 digit serial number with the first 2 digits being the build year , and the last 4 being the build number ie 771234 would be 1977# 1234
The second serial system is the Showa calendar ( emperor's reign ) - these may have been for the Japanese domestic market -
The Showa serials can look like this 43.1.6 , 47 .12.11 etc the first 2 digits are the Showa year - easily found on Google if you enter ( Showa 43 ) it will give you the year ie Showa 43 - is 1968
After 1980 Nagoya Suzuki changed from the normal label to white and updated the serial numbers to 7 digits mid 1980s to the end of guitar production in 1991 .
Thanks! I was just about to look that up.
DeleteShowa calendar I mean
DeleteI have a Suzuki guitar AD536S, great condition. Serial number
ReplyDelete800726. It plays and sounds great. Any info would be appreciated.
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